1 00:00:05,190 --> 00:00:03,510 good morning and welcome to nasa 2 00:00:07,030 --> 00:00:05,200 headquarters in washington i'm public 3 00:00:08,310 --> 00:00:07,040 affairs officer trent parado and we're 4 00:00:10,310 --> 00:00:08,320 here to discuss the successful 5 00:00:12,310 --> 00:00:10,320 completion of nasa's commercial orbital 6 00:00:13,350 --> 00:00:12,320 transportation services or cots 7 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:13,360 initiative 8 00:00:17,349 --> 00:00:15,599 through cots two u.s companies nasa 9 00:00:18,950 --> 00:00:17,359 partners spacex and orbital sciences 10 00:00:21,189 --> 00:00:18,960 developed new spacecraft and rockets 11 00:00:23,029 --> 00:00:21,199 capable of resupplying the international 12 00:00:25,269 --> 00:00:23,039 space station with cargo launch right 13 00:00:27,029 --> 00:00:25,279 here on u.s soil you can find out more 14 00:00:29,589 --> 00:00:27,039 about nasa and commercial space at 15 00:00:31,509 --> 00:00:29,599 www.nasa.gov 16 00:00:33,190 --> 00:00:31,519 slash commercial we have a distinguished 17 00:00:34,709 --> 00:00:33,200 panel of guests joining us today to 18 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:34,719 discuss the successful completion of the 19 00:00:38,549 --> 00:00:36,559 cost initiative and what it means for a 20 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:38,559 future human space flight let me 21 00:00:43,350 --> 00:00:41,200 introduce them now to my left is alan 22 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:43,360 lindenmoyer manager of nasa's commercial 23 00:00:47,990 --> 00:00:45,760 crew and cargo program 24 00:00:49,510 --> 00:00:48,000 and we have gwen shotwell president 25 00:00:52,150 --> 00:00:49,520 spacex 26 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:52,160 next is frank culbertson executive vice 27 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:53,840 president and general manager of orbital 28 00:00:58,869 --> 00:00:56,480 sciences advanced programs group 29 00:01:00,470 --> 00:00:58,879 frank slaser vice president of space 30 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:00,480 systems the aerospace industries 31 00:01:04,390 --> 00:01:02,239 association 32 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:04,400 and phil mcallister nasa's director of 33 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:06,400 commercial humans excuse me commercial 34 00:01:09,429 --> 00:01:08,240 space flight development but before we 35 00:01:10,950 --> 00:01:09,439 turn the discussion over to our panel 36 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:10,960 i'd just like to introduce nasa 37 00:01:22,149 --> 00:01:13,040 administrator charles bolden for a few 38 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:24,310 thank you trent and thanks to all of you 39 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:26,640 for coming tuning in tweeting doing 40 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:28,320 whatever you're doing to take part in 41 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:30,720 this this great event today 42 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:32,560 i want to welcome all of you to this 43 00:01:37,030 --> 00:01:34,880 milestone moment in nasa's commitment to 44 00:01:38,789 --> 00:01:37,040 transition the transportation of both 45 00:01:40,630 --> 00:01:38,799 cargo and crew to the international 46 00:01:43,270 --> 00:01:40,640 space station and other future low earth 47 00:01:45,749 --> 00:01:43,280 orbit destinations to our commercial 48 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:45,759 industry partners a little more than two 49 00:01:49,030 --> 00:01:47,520 years ago 50 00:01:51,350 --> 00:01:49,040 after the end of the space shuttle 51 00:01:53,510 --> 00:01:51,360 program two american companies spacex of 52 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:53,520 hawthorne california and orbital 53 00:01:57,749 --> 00:01:55,439 sciences corporation of dulles virginia 54 00:01:59,830 --> 00:01:57,759 have restored american capability to 55 00:02:01,670 --> 00:01:59,840 deliver and return experiments and 56 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:01,680 supplies to the international space 57 00:02:06,069 --> 00:02:04,479 station replacing our reliance on on 58 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:06,079 foreign providers 59 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:08,160 their successes mark the conclusion of 60 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:10,399 nasa's commercial orbital transportation 61 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:12,959 services or cots program 62 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:15,040 and clear the way for both companies to 63 00:02:19,670 --> 00:02:17,040 begin providing regular transportation 64 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:19,680 services to the iss 65 00:02:23,670 --> 00:02:22,080 spacex completed its cot's development 66 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:23,680 with a demonstration mission to the 67 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:26,400 space station last year 68 00:02:30,869 --> 00:02:28,160 since then the company has flown the 69 00:02:33,990 --> 00:02:30,879 first two of 12 contracted cargo 70 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:34,000 resupply flights to the space station 71 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:36,800 orbital sciences ended its development 72 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:39,280 phase in october of this year with a 73 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:41,040 successful demonstration mission to the 74 00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:42,560 space station 75 00:02:46,949 --> 00:02:44,720 orbital is poised to launch the first of 76 00:02:49,509 --> 00:02:46,959 its eight cargo resupply missions to the 77 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:49,519 station in december 78 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:51,360 these achievements are the result of 79 00:02:55,830 --> 00:02:53,440 strong bipartisan leadership by the 80 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:55,840 obama and bush administrations 81 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:58,000 as well as the extraordinary skill and 82 00:03:03,190 --> 00:03:00,480 dedication of the men and women of nasa 83 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:03,200 and our partners in the private sector 84 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:04,720 building on this public-private 85 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:06,800 partnership model president obama has 86 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:09,599 invested in an even more ambitious plan 87 00:03:14,550 --> 00:03:11,760 to have american companies transport our 88 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:14,560 astronauts to the iss on spacecraft 89 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:16,800 launched from american soil 90 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:18,720 ending the outsourcing of this work 91 00:03:21,910 --> 00:03:20,080 overseas 92 00:03:24,070 --> 00:03:21,920 it's now critically important to get 93 00:03:27,589 --> 00:03:24,080 full funding from congress to keep us on 94 00:03:29,910 --> 00:03:27,599 track to begin these launches in 2017. 95 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:29,920 three companies spacex boeing and sierra 96 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:31,680 nevada are already hard at work 97 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:33,120 developing the next generation 98 00:03:37,589 --> 00:03:35,440 spacecraft and rockets capable of 99 00:03:40,229 --> 00:03:37,599 transporting humans to and from low 100 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:40,239 earth orbit from american soil 101 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:41,360 next week 102 00:03:44,949 --> 00:03:43,040 we will issue a final request for 103 00:03:47,430 --> 00:03:44,959 proposals for contracts designed to 104 00:03:49,110 --> 00:03:47,440 ensure commercial companies meet nasa's 105 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:49,120 safety requirements for transporting 106 00:03:53,030 --> 00:03:51,760 nasa crews to and from the international 107 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:53,040 space station 108 00:03:57,990 --> 00:03:55,680 so in many ways the completion of cots 109 00:03:59,990 --> 00:03:58,000 is simply a passing of the torch of 110 00:04:01,910 --> 00:04:00,000 innovation to our partners in the 111 00:04:04,630 --> 00:04:01,920 commercial crew program 112 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:04,640 today it's absolutely clear 113 00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:07,280 america's best days in space exploration 114 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:08,560 are ahead of us 115 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:10,480 thanks to the grit and determination of 116 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:12,239 those in government and the private 117 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:15,200 sector who dare to dream big dreams and 118 00:04:18,469 --> 00:04:16,959 have the skills to turn them into 119 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:18,479 reality 120 00:04:22,950 --> 00:04:20,720 in a moment you'll hear details about 121 00:04:25,430 --> 00:04:22,960 our cots program and its successes from 122 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:25,440 the key architects of that program 123 00:04:28,950 --> 00:04:27,280 at this time i want to recognize 124 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:28,960 something we have become accustomed to 125 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:30,720 in this arena 126 00:04:34,950 --> 00:04:32,960 i want to recognize all of them for 127 00:04:36,950 --> 00:04:34,960 bringing us to this historic turning 128 00:04:39,030 --> 00:04:36,960 point by presenting each of them with a 129 00:04:40,629 --> 00:04:39,040 nasa group achievement award 130 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:40,639 first i'm going to present to alan 131 00:04:45,590 --> 00:04:42,800 lindemore manager of nasa's commercial 132 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:45,600 crew and cargo program the citation for 133 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:47,840 for allen will read for outstanding 134 00:04:51,350 --> 00:04:49,520 contributions and innovative 135 00:04:53,990 --> 00:04:51,360 accomplishments in the area of human 136 00:04:55,830 --> 00:04:54,000 space exploration by facilitating the 137 00:04:58,390 --> 00:04:55,840 development of a new generation of 138 00:05:00,469 --> 00:04:58,400 american rockets and spacecraft paving 139 00:05:14,870 --> 00:05:00,479 the way for 21st century commercial 140 00:05:18,950 --> 00:05:16,790 and so i only have to read the citation 141 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:18,960 once i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you about 142 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:20,400 the next two people and then we'll get 143 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:22,800 them up one at a time but then together 144 00:05:28,150 --> 00:05:25,440 they do that thing every once in a while 145 00:05:29,909 --> 00:05:28,160 to gwen shotwell president of spacex and 146 00:05:31,590 --> 00:05:29,919 frank culbertson executive vice 147 00:05:33,749 --> 00:05:31,600 president and general manager orbital 148 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:33,759 sciences advanced programs group 149 00:05:37,909 --> 00:05:36,400 their citations read for outstanding 150 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:37,919 contributions and innovative 151 00:05:41,990 --> 00:05:39,600 accomplishments in the area of human 152 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:42,000 space exploration by developing a new 153 00:05:46,629 --> 00:05:43,919 generation of american rockets and 154 00:05:48,710 --> 00:05:46,639 spacecraft paving the way for 21st 155 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:48,720 century commercial space flight 156 00:06:08,710 --> 00:05:50,880 congratulations gwen and to frank and 157 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:14,309 i know i can get you to behave sometimes 158 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:18,790 sometimes 159 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:20,390 would you come on up here and join us 160 00:06:27,110 --> 00:06:22,400 and we'll get the three of you 161 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:42,950 how's this i need to move that one 162 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:45,270 congratulations to all of you once again 163 00:06:49,029 --> 00:06:46,080 and 164 00:06:51,189 --> 00:06:49,039 this is an exciting day as i said 165 00:06:52,790 --> 00:06:51,199 you know it's kind of quirky maybe but 166 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:52,800 we just finished taking the olympic 167 00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:55,120 torch up the station last week and 168 00:06:59,589 --> 00:06:57,280 getting it back down so in a way this is 169 00:07:01,430 --> 00:06:59,599 passing another torch uh we're really 170 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:01,440 excited about our commercial crew 171 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:03,840 program i think uh the com successful 172 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:05,280 completion of the cots program and 173 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:06,960 moving into business 174 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:09,039 uh signals that that we've got a pretty 175 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:10,400 good idea about how to do this thing and 176 00:07:13,749 --> 00:07:12,240 i'm very confident we'll get it done so 177 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:13,759 congratulations to all of you again i'm 178 00:07:23,350 --> 00:07:15,120 going to turn it back over to trent and 179 00:07:27,189 --> 00:07:25,029 okay so let's hear from our 180 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:27,199 award-winning panelists then 181 00:07:30,870 --> 00:07:28,960 and we'll begin with allen lindenmoyer 182 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:30,880 thank you trent and thank you charlie so 183 00:07:35,430 --> 00:07:33,280 much what a great what a great surprise 184 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:35,440 and what an honor and a pleasure to be 185 00:07:39,430 --> 00:07:37,280 here today to talk about the success of 186 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:39,440 cots with my great friends uh from 187 00:07:44,309 --> 00:07:42,080 spacex and orbital 188 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:44,319 um 189 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:50,550 it worked 190 00:07:54,629 --> 00:07:52,560 spacex 191 00:07:56,550 --> 00:07:54,639 uh 192 00:07:59,189 --> 00:07:56,560 the origin of cots was from a very 193 00:08:01,749 --> 00:07:59,199 healthy competition we had a large group 194 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:01,759 of companies that competed 195 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:04,240 to become our partners but we had high 196 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:06,080 confidence in these two companies that 197 00:08:10,869 --> 00:08:08,160 they were going to deliver and they 198 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:10,879 certainly did not let us down 199 00:08:14,790 --> 00:08:12,720 i personally had confidence that these 200 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:14,800 companies were going to produce new 201 00:08:18,469 --> 00:08:16,720 space transportation systems with or 202 00:08:19,270 --> 00:08:18,479 without nasa's help 203 00:08:21,749 --> 00:08:19,280 but 204 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:21,759 i think we've seen here with that 205 00:08:26,790 --> 00:08:24,400 contribution of financial support from 206 00:08:28,629 --> 00:08:26,800 nasa and the technical 207 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:28,639 resources we had available really 208 00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:30,000 accelerated 209 00:08:34,949 --> 00:08:32,240 the work that you had planned to do 210 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:34,959 and uh it certainly 211 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:37,440 was great to see us succeed uh kotz was 212 00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:40,719 a challenge to private industry 213 00:08:44,710 --> 00:08:42,560 it certainly was a new way of doing 214 00:08:46,870 --> 00:08:44,720 business for us but 215 00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:46,880 it was an experiment to 216 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:49,680 to show that with with 217 00:08:58,790 --> 00:08:50,560 a 218 00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:58,800 so difficult in this business 219 00:09:04,630 --> 00:09:01,760 along with partnering with access to 220 00:09:06,150 --> 00:09:04,640 nasa's vast history of lessons learned 221 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:06,160 and our experience we've learned over 222 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:09,120 the years and 223 00:09:12,870 --> 00:09:10,800 availability of our technical support 224 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:12,880 when needed you couple those two things 225 00:09:17,350 --> 00:09:14,640 together put it with two very strong 226 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:17,360 companies could it lead to the 227 00:09:20,710 --> 00:09:19,360 development of new state-of-the-art 228 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:20,720 systems well 229 00:09:23,990 --> 00:09:22,399 why don't we take a look at the amazing 230 00:09:40,949 --> 00:09:24,000 machines that these companies have 231 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:42,630 three two 232 00:09:47,750 --> 00:09:44,640 one 233 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:47,760 this is the falcon 9 on the cops first 234 00:09:53,269 --> 00:09:50,880 demonstration launch 235 00:09:59,829 --> 00:09:53,279 this was out of the cape in december of 236 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:03,190 and then on the second flight 237 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:04,560 uh in 238 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:12,230 this flight was just a two-orbit 239 00:10:16,389 --> 00:10:14,320 demonstration 240 00:10:19,269 --> 00:10:16,399 and then on the second flight in may 241 00:10:21,269 --> 00:10:19,279 the dragon successfully uh did a flyby 242 00:10:22,710 --> 00:10:21,279 of the station rendezvoused with the 243 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:22,720 station 244 00:10:27,430 --> 00:10:25,600 and then had a perfectly successful 245 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:27,440 birthing to the station 246 00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:29,839 on the mission they did carry 247 00:10:35,430 --> 00:10:32,800 some demonstration cargo to prove out 248 00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:35,440 all of their internal systems 249 00:10:38,389 --> 00:10:37,120 the dragon stayed on orbit for about a 250 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:38,399 week 251 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:58,230 was unburned 252 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:00,550 boy things go pretty fast when you're 253 00:11:06,310 --> 00:11:03,760 looking at it for the second time 254 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:06,320 a couple revs later uh the dragon had a 255 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:08,160 great successful splashdown in the south 256 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:10,880 pacific was immediately recovered 257 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:14,399 uh brought back and uh proved that it 258 00:11:19,829 --> 00:11:16,079 was a good reliable system of getting 259 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:22,150 and then uh 260 00:11:29,190 --> 00:11:24,160 at this last uh april was the first 261 00:11:32,230 --> 00:11:31,190 rocket system to the international space 262 00:11:33,750 --> 00:11:32,240 station 263 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:33,760 and then just a few months later in 264 00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:36,000 september it made its flight to the 265 00:11:39,509 --> 00:11:37,760 space station 266 00:11:42,069 --> 00:11:39,519 september 23rd 267 00:11:52,710 --> 00:11:42,079 out of a brand new launch pad at wallops 268 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:53,910 the cygnus 269 00:11:58,870 --> 00:11:55,440 took its time getting to the space 270 00:12:01,430 --> 00:11:58,880 station and demonstrated its ability to 271 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:01,440 load her in orbit for about a week got 272 00:12:06,150 --> 00:12:03,920 its system straightened out and 273 00:12:07,910 --> 00:12:06,160 was ready to go did a flawless approach 274 00:12:09,590 --> 00:12:07,920 to the station 275 00:12:11,829 --> 00:12:09,600 was captured 276 00:12:17,509 --> 00:12:11,839 and then had a 277 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:18,790 to the station 278 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:21,200 it also carried 279 00:12:28,069 --> 00:12:23,519 a complement of demonstration cargo 280 00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:31,590 oh 1500 pounds of cargo was brought up 281 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:33,120 and then 282 00:12:37,509 --> 00:12:35,120 karen and luca and the other crew on 283 00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:37,519 board stuffed it full of 284 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:39,279 trash and other items that needed to be 285 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:40,880 disposed it has a lot of room in the 286 00:12:51,110 --> 00:12:46,550 they loaded that up 287 00:12:52,550 --> 00:12:51,120 with about oh gosh 2600 pounds of 288 00:12:57,190 --> 00:12:52,560 equipment and 289 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,910 on the 290 00:13:06,069 --> 00:13:02,949 22nd of october and then the next day 291 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:06,079 space station release confirmed at 6 31 292 00:13:09,670 --> 00:13:07,680 a.m central time once again the two 293 00:13:11,430 --> 00:13:09,680 vehicles were high above the atlantic 294 00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:11,440 ocean 295 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:13,760 station houston cygnus has exited the 296 00:13:28,629 --> 00:13:24,710 had a safe and uneventful re-entry on 297 00:13:33,269 --> 00:13:31,670 these are incredible machines they're 298 00:13:35,509 --> 00:13:33,279 highly complex 299 00:13:39,030 --> 00:13:35,519 state-of-the-art spacecraft 300 00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:41,829 certainly worked beautifully well 301 00:13:45,910 --> 00:13:44,240 on the demonstration which set up now 302 00:13:49,110 --> 00:13:45,920 paved the way for 303 00:13:51,189 --> 00:13:49,120 cargo services for several years to come 304 00:13:52,949 --> 00:13:51,199 and keep keep the space station going 305 00:13:55,670 --> 00:13:52,959 with all the incredible research it's 306 00:14:01,110 --> 00:13:59,030 kotz needs uh 307 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:01,120 it's not for everything gotz was a new 308 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:02,800 weighing business it was a new way of 309 00:14:06,710 --> 00:14:04,320 doing business and it certainly needed 310 00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:06,720 the right ingredients to be successful a 311 00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:09,120 good strong value comp uh proposition 312 00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:11,600 from the companies proposing uh we 313 00:14:15,910 --> 00:14:14,079 weren't looking to expand new technology 314 00:14:18,230 --> 00:14:15,920 this was taking technology that was 315 00:14:21,110 --> 00:14:18,240 known repackaging in a more cost 316 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:21,120 effective and innovative way 317 00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:23,600 it needs multiple companies 318 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:25,600 to have a good healthy competition needs 319 00:14:29,829 --> 00:14:27,760 good strong financing 320 00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:29,839 because nasa did not pay the full cost 321 00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:32,000 there was a 322 00:14:36,949 --> 00:14:35,040 a very significant amount of investment 323 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:36,959 from these companies and you have to 324 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:38,800 have multiple markets government can't 325 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:41,040 be the only customer 326 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:49,430 others in industry and expanding the us 327 00:14:53,670 --> 00:14:51,760 commercial industry this is american 328 00:14:55,509 --> 00:14:53,680 ingenuity at its best 329 00:14:59,509 --> 00:14:55,519 resulting in safe reliable and 330 00:15:01,430 --> 00:14:59,519 cost-effective space transportation 331 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:01,440 providing incredibly important job of 332 00:15:05,910 --> 00:15:03,279 resupplying the space station taking 333 00:15:07,750 --> 00:15:05,920 over the job of the shuttle 334 00:15:09,670 --> 00:15:07,760 was intended to do it's going to keep 335 00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:09,680 space station going for many many years 336 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:12,560 to come all the great research going on 337 00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:14,560 uh 338 00:15:25,189 --> 00:15:22,720 to focus on 339 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:25,199 on the more current and and difficult 340 00:15:29,269 --> 00:15:27,040 challenges of building the new vehicles 341 00:15:31,829 --> 00:15:29,279 and spacecraft we need to explore beyond 342 00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:31,839 low earth orbit and make our way out to 343 00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:34,000 the asteroids and eventually to mars so 344 00:15:38,629 --> 00:15:36,720 congratulations well done 345 00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:38,639 uh thank you for making nasa a very 346 00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:47,829 okay thanks alan let's turn it over to 347 00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:49,920 spacex president gwen shotwell thanks 348 00:15:55,189 --> 00:15:52,560 very much uh it's a pleasure to be here 349 00:15:57,509 --> 00:15:55,199 this morning still this morning 350 00:15:59,829 --> 00:15:57,519 we've been thankful to nasa 351 00:16:01,829 --> 00:15:59,839 throughout the the program for their 352 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:01,839 support and their help but what i really 353 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:03,440 wanted to highlight here this morning 354 00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:06,320 was to thank nasa for the vision that 355 00:16:12,069 --> 00:16:09,600 they had in creating this program 356 00:16:13,269 --> 00:16:12,079 it was a revolutionary program and 357 00:16:15,110 --> 00:16:13,279 provided 358 00:16:17,749 --> 00:16:15,120 a great opportunity for the commercial 359 00:16:19,509 --> 00:16:17,759 space sector to uh to do what they do 360 00:16:21,910 --> 00:16:19,519 best and to flourish 361 00:16:23,829 --> 00:16:21,920 and result in really enormous capability 362 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:23,839 now in the united states 363 00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:25,360 so we're incredibly proud of what we've 364 00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:27,519 accomplished over these years under the 365 00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:30,399 cots program and we're honored uh to 366 00:16:33,350 --> 00:16:32,079 have been selected and to help restore 367 00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:33,360 the cargo capability to the 368 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:36,399 international space station domestically 369 00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:38,480 this program was an enormous success not 370 00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:41,839 only for nasa and for spacex and orbital 371 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:43,519 as well but also for the american 372 00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:46,320 taxpayer i think the the the model that 373 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:47,600 kotz 374 00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:50,560 followed uh is one that should be 375 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:53,040 leveraged as we continue to go forward 376 00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:54,880 especially during these difficult uh 377 00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:57,279 budget environments as alan says it's 378 00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:58,959 probably not the right model for every 379 00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:59,920 program 380 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:01,279 but certainly i think we should think 381 00:17:06,949 --> 00:17:03,360 very hard about following this model for 382 00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:09,590 so this was a significant departure uh 383 00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:11,839 as we talked about uh both initially 384 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:14,079 here today as well as this morning we 385 00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:17,280 did a lessons learned uh round table 386 00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:20,160 the the focus on firm fixed price 387 00:17:25,829 --> 00:17:22,480 milestone-based contracting uh or 388 00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:25,839 agreements is incredibly uh important um 389 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:29,280 the leveraging of uh investment uh by 390 00:17:33,909 --> 00:17:30,880 nasa's commercial partners here in this 391 00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:33,919 case us and an orbital so nasa provided 392 00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:36,960 396 million dollars worth of uh 393 00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:39,200 financial support to spacex out of an 394 00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:41,280 overall program that was about 850 395 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:42,799 million so we spent 396 00:17:47,830 --> 00:17:45,760 over 450 million of our own uh resources 397 00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:47,840 to develop the falcon 9 and the dragon 398 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:50,000 capability 399 00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:51,760 so falcon 9 is an extraordinary launch 400 00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:52,799 vehicle 401 00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:55,600 competitive in the elv class 402 00:17:58,470 --> 00:17:56,799 we're winning 403 00:18:00,150 --> 00:17:58,480 missions from overseas and bringing 404 00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:00,160 those critical jobs back to the united 405 00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:02,080 states which is also really cut should 406 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:04,799 really take uh credit for that in 407 00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:06,400 addition we have a beautiful dragon 408 00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:08,320 capsule capable of taking about three 409 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:10,000 metric tons of pressurized and 410 00:18:13,909 --> 00:18:12,080 unpressurized cargo up and bringing back 411 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:13,919 about two and a half metric tons of 412 00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:16,480 precious science and cargo as well so 413 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:19,120 we're enormously proud of uh of the 414 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,840 partnership and working with nasa 415 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:24,000 and this program really demonstrated how 416 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,160 you can leverage the best of both 417 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,720 sectors you can leverage the resources 418 00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:31,039 and the tremendous knowledge that nasa 419 00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:32,799 and the us government had 420 00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:35,600 along with the ingenuity the fast-paced 421 00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:38,559 environment rapid prototyping 422 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:41,120 and really the drive to get things done 423 00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:43,520 of the private sector 424 00:18:46,789 --> 00:18:45,039 so we've accomplished three missions to 425 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:46,799 the international space station we're 426 00:18:50,230 --> 00:18:48,960 looking forward to 427 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:50,240 10 more 428 00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:53,520 as we go we've just recently 429 00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:56,000 plugged in the date for the next crs 430 00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:57,760 mission crs3 431 00:19:02,390 --> 00:19:00,880 will fly in february of of next year 432 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:02,400 also from the cape this will be the 433 00:19:06,789 --> 00:19:04,720 first crs mission on the upgraded falcon 434 00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:06,799 9 launch vehicle 435 00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:09,200 so i wanted to thanks thank nasa again 436 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:11,200 for the opportunity to participate in 437 00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:13,600 this extraordinary program um we are 438 00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:15,440 proud and we're honored to have been a 439 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:16,480 part of it 440 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:17,600 thanks 441 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:24,070 i will turn it over to orbital sciences 442 00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:25,840 frank culbertson frank thank you very 443 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:27,520 much trent and uh good morning to 444 00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:29,120 everybody um 445 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:31,440 gwen said it very well the uh the key 446 00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:33,280 aspects of this program were the 447 00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:36,080 partnership aspect and the investment 448 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:38,960 that both the companies and nasa 449 00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:40,480 as well as in our case the state of 450 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:42,080 virginia had to put into this and to 451 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:43,760 take a chance on this 452 00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:46,320 um it helped a lot that before we got 453 00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:48,480 too far along in the program nasa did 454 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:50,880 put out a competition for contracts that 455 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:52,960 gave us the incentive to really get this 456 00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:55,200 right because there was the potential 457 00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:57,600 for a services contract 458 00:20:02,149 --> 00:19:59,520 in the future 459 00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:02,159 an orbital had actually 460 00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:04,080 actually orbital was was founded on the 461 00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:05,120 premise of 462 00:20:09,029 --> 00:20:07,039 commercial access to space and our first 463 00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:09,039 rocket to do that was the pegasus and 464 00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:10,559 we've been doing that for almost 30 465 00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:13,520 years and so this was a great 466 00:20:16,870 --> 00:20:15,200 step in the in what we think is the 467 00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:16,880 right direction to commercialize a lot 468 00:20:21,669 --> 00:20:19,840 of aspects of what we do in space and as 469 00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:21,679 was said this model can be used for a 470 00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:23,039 lot of other 471 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:24,880 projects programs and not just in the 472 00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,880 space program but it certainly is well 473 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,640 suited for supporting the international 474 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:30,480 space station and we think for 475 00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:31,760 exploration 476 00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:33,280 orbital had begun investing in the 477 00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:35,039 antares rocket 478 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:36,400 before the 479 00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:38,720 beginning of the cots program as a 480 00:20:42,549 --> 00:20:41,360 medium class lift vehicle for replacing 481 00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:42,559 the delta ii 482 00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,880 and so it was a nice uh 483 00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,559 a nice move for nasa to come along with 484 00:20:49,270 --> 00:20:48,240 cuts so we'd have our first customer for 485 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:49,280 it 486 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:51,360 and of course that rocket has worked out 487 00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:53,840 very well and performed flawlessly on 488 00:20:59,190 --> 00:20:57,120 both of our first two flights 489 00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:59,200 we've got a great team 490 00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:01,520 at orbital who has learned a lot from 491 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,159 nasa and our other partners but also has 492 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:06,240 put a lot of innovation into into what 493 00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:08,400 we're doing and and learned to to be 494 00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:10,960 both efficient uh 495 00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:13,039 and cost effective while still being 496 00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:15,440 safe and reliable to support human space 497 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,320 flight which is a different world 498 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,080 than just what we've been doing in the 499 00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:22,559 past supporting communications satellite 500 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:24,799 science satellites in the dod 501 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:27,520 so it's a good direction to be moving 502 00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:29,360 as you know i firmly believe that human 503 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:31,280 space flight is the foundation of 504 00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:33,360 continuing all of our space programs and 505 00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:35,679 continuing the future of nasa so we're 506 00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:37,919 very honored to be a part of supporting 507 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,159 the iss and looking forward to it 508 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:42,240 continuing for a long time and 509 00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:44,480 and other programs that come along 510 00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:46,960 um the requirements of this program were 511 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:48,080 um 512 00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,720 were very serious for us to uh that we 513 00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:52,559 had to establish but the best thing was 514 00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:53,919 nasa let us establish our own 515 00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:55,760 requirements except when we were close 516 00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:57,039 to the station so we had to be 517 00:22:01,990 --> 00:21:59,520 responsible for our own success both on 518 00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:02,000 the launch vehicle and the spacecraft 519 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:04,480 and and that taught us a lot uh we also 520 00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:06,640 had to learn a lot of flexibility um as 521 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:10,000 did nasa in this case uh in some cases 522 00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:11,840 and and i think that's a good thing for 523 00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:13,440 industry to uh 524 00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:15,679 uh to to work with the government on on 525 00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:17,840 how to be more flexible in in arriving 526 00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:19,360 at solutions 527 00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:20,799 um 528 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:25,760 for for both companies and for nasa 529 00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,360 because the space station does rely on 530 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:29,120 this logistics train 531 00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:31,360 not just on us but we're going to be a 532 00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:32,880 larger and larger part of it going 533 00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:35,919 forward and so being able to establish a 534 00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:37,520 cost-effective 535 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:40,720 supply chain our production plan is also 536 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:41,760 important 537 00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,280 to both of us 538 00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:45,200 i want to thank our teammates 539 00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:46,960 mid-atlantic regional spaceport 540 00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:48,400 supported by virginia department of 541 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,280 transportation has been invaluable in 542 00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,280 this in developing the launch pad and 543 00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:54,960 operating it for us 544 00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:57,919 nasa as a teammate not just in the cots 545 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:01,600 program but also iss at wallops jsc ksc 546 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:02,799 marshall 547 00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:05,360 many centers have contributed to 548 00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:07,120 the success of this with 549 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,159 expertise advice and and uh 550 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,000 and actually people occasionally to to 551 00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:14,080 come in and look at what we're doing 552 00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:17,600 um our teammates atk airjet yuzhinoya 553 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:19,760 and tala selenia also have contributed 554 00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:21,520 greatly to the success success of this 555 00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:24,080 by providing us with great hardware that 556 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,520 has worked well 557 00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:27,520 as many of you know we uh we named our 558 00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:29,679 first uh cygnus spacecraft to go to the 559 00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:32,799 station the g david lowe in honor of 560 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:35,520 a former astronaut classmate of mine and 561 00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:37,600 a former orbital employee who actually 562 00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:39,440 was involved in the early days of of 563 00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,080 cots from the very beginning and who we 564 00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:43,919 lost a few years ago 565 00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:45,919 unfortunately but we were very proud to 566 00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:47,840 name that one the g david lowe 567 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:49,520 our next one in order to continue the 568 00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:51,440 tradition will be named after c gordon 569 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:52,720 fullerton 570 00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:54,960 gordo as most of us know 571 00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:56,000 know him 572 00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:58,080 was a two-time shuttle pilot 573 00:24:01,430 --> 00:24:00,000 a long time test pilot and research 574 00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:01,440 pilot at dryden 575 00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:03,200 but his connection with orbital was that 576 00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,039 he was the pilot of the b-52 that 577 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,120 dropped our pegasus several times out 578 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,600 there as we were developing that program 579 00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:11,919 and worked closely with us in helping 580 00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:14,880 make make that program a success and 581 00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:16,640 when we transitioned into the l-1011 582 00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:17,919 gordo was pretty happy about that 583 00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,000 because then he could fly the f-18 and 584 00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:22,559 not the heavy in order to to chase our 585 00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:23,679 our launches 586 00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:25,679 so um uh it's going to be an honor for 587 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,559 us to name the the december 15th flight 588 00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:31,120 of cygnus after see gordon fullerton and 589 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:32,799 continue that tradition 590 00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:33,600 uh 591 00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:35,200 mid-december is when our next one is 592 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:36,640 scheduled the one after that should be 593 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,120 in april or may and uh we're continuing 594 00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:41,440 with the uh with the production line and 595 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,039 looking forward to many many more 596 00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:45,200 flights of supporting station we hope 597 00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:47,440 well beyond 2020. 598 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:54,470 thanks frank uh we'll turn over the 599 00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:55,840 discussion to frank slaser of the 600 00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,320 aerospace industries association frank 601 00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,720 thank you uh some of you may wonder why 602 00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:02,159 i'm up here on this panel since i'm not 603 00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:05,679 a cox contractor or uh representing nasa 604 00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,919 but in fact the organization i work for 605 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,600 represents about 90 percent of the us 606 00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:12,000 industry sales by dollar value and 607 00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:13,360 employs over three and a half million 608 00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:15,919 people and i can just uh here to really 609 00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:17,279 attest to the fact that this has been 610 00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,200 not only a benefit for nasa and for the 611 00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:21,440 cots companies but also for the space 612 00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,880 industrial base an industrial base 613 00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:24,720 that's increasingly under pressure as 614 00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:26,960 federal budget cutbacks and and 615 00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:29,200 shrinkages have caused uh difficulties 616 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:30,480 for the industry 617 00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,120 uh cots has really also shown uh not 618 00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:35,039 just that these companies can can reach 619 00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,960 the space station but also that 620 00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:38,799 leadership in space by our nation isn't 621 00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:40,080 just something that happened in the past 622 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:42,159 we can look back fondly on but our road 623 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:43,360 to the future and something we're going 624 00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:45,120 to continue to excel in 625 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:46,799 cots also showed the value of giving 626 00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:49,360 industry a greater role in accomplishing 627 00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:52,159 an objective again you look at the cost 628 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,960 that was invested in cots well more than 629 00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,360 800 million dollars that's about what 630 00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:59,200 one shuttle flight used to cost and now 631 00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:01,360 we have two launch systems as well as 632 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,159 two uh crews to be two uh cargo 633 00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:06,640 capabilities to bring materials up to 634 00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:09,360 the station and some materials back 635 00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:11,679 in addition to independent access uh 636 00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:12,880 because this 637 00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,799 these developments happened the united 638 00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,080 states is starting to see something that 639 00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:18,640 hasn't happened since the 1990s us 640 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,799 satellite sales are being made and 641 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,200 launches are being planned on cots 642 00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:25,520 vehicles so we're bringing back and from 643 00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,600 the future or to the future something we 644 00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,360 once did which was uh having a healthy 645 00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:31,039 launch industry and reestablishing our 646 00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:33,440 space transportation role 647 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:36,480 the investment is also helping to 648 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:39,360 facilitate nasa continuing to invest in 649 00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,240 the orion multi-purpose crew exploration 650 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:44,000 vehicle as well as the space launch 651 00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,760 system this is an important thing 652 00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:47,279 because right now nasa's budget's under 653 00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:49,440 a lot of threat between sequestration as 654 00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,799 well as the overall decline in the 655 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,799 federal spending right now so for nasa 656 00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:54,960 to get this very cost effective way to 657 00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:57,600 sustain iss to at least 2020 and 658 00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,360 hopefully beyond is very very important 659 00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:03,279 i'd also note that the cots is also 660 00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:05,120 helping to create more than just 661 00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:06,640 providing access the 662 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,360 iss for nasa purposes it's enabling new 663 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,360 industries and new users in academia and 664 00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:13,760 other locations in our society 665 00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:15,919 to utilize the iss national lab the 666 00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:18,720 international space station national lab 667 00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:20,159 and this is really going to be important 668 00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:21,520 because space station is a facility 669 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:23,440 that's got great capabilities now we 670 00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:24,880 need to utilize them and that's starting 671 00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,360 to happen and cots is a big part of that 672 00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,279 in fact uh as an example in just three 673 00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:32,000 years of operations one new company's uh 674 00:27:36,389 --> 00:27:35,120 nanoracks llc has sent over 100 payloads 675 00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:36,399 to the international space station on 676 00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:39,520 behalf of customers ranging from uh 39 677 00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,080 school districts to advanced biopharma 678 00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:44,159 pharmaceutical companies 679 00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,919 u.s industry has invested and is 680 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:48,000 investing capital and innovative ideas 681 00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,840 to support this new future and the 682 00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:51,120 government agencies and the congress 683 00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:52,799 that have created this program 684 00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:54,640 have also taken key steps to foster 685 00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,799 these new initiatives stability however 686 00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:58,480 is important going forward in the future 687 00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:59,840 these companies have invested their 688 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:01,840 capital on behalf of a market that they 689 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:03,039 need to have some assurance is going to 690 00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:04,320 be there in order to pay back their 691 00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:06,320 investors as well as to enable future 692 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:07,679 capabilities to be developed in a 693 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:08,960 similar way 694 00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,480 cots in the commercial cargo program 695 00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:12,399 have also successfully re-established 696 00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,480 u.s domestic domestic cargo access to 697 00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:16,799 the station and aia believes that kotz 698 00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:18,000 has pointed the way for nasa's 699 00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:19,919 commercial crew program as the most 700 00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:21,679 expedient way to now reestablish 701 00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:24,080 independent u.s crew access to the space 702 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:25,200 station 703 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,789 thanks so much frank so before we turn 704 00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:34,559 over the discussion to phil mcallister 705 00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:36,240 for for closing remarks i just want to 706 00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,760 show a short video that highlights some 707 00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:39,200 of the science we've been able to to 708 00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:40,640 conduct aboard the international space 709 00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:41,919 station some of the investigations were 710 00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:43,840 really excited to be able to send up 711 00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:46,080 these of course capabilities that have 712 00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:47,279 been enabled 713 00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:49,919 by our by our cots partners and current 714 00:29:05,029 --> 00:28:51,919 commercial resupply services providers 715 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,029 the international space station is a 716 00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:09,520 convergence of science technology and 717 00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:11,840 human innovation and orbiting science 718 00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:14,399 lab where astronauts live work and 719 00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:16,159 prepare for even bolder human 720 00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:18,640 exploration missions with the retirement 721 00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:21,200 of the shuttle program nasa challenged 722 00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,279 american industry to provide safe 723 00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,600 reliable and affordable transportation 724 00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:27,360 to the space station in order to 725 00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:29,360 maintain u.s leadership in space 726 00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:32,240 exploration and scientific discovery 727 00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:34,880 nasa's commercial partners spacex and 728 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,279 orbital scientists met that challenge 729 00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:39,520 ending our temporary reliance on others 730 00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:41,600 to resupply the station 731 00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:44,000 these american companies are delivering 732 00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:45,520 critical supplies and science 733 00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,279 experiments to the international space 734 00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,679 station that expand our understanding of 735 00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:51,840 the universe and clear the path for 736 00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:54,159 deeper human exploration into the solar 737 00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:55,200 system 738 00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:57,200 one recently returned investigation 739 00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:59,679 aboard a spacex dragon spacecraft was 740 00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:01,919 the coarsening and solid liquid mixtures 741 00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,320 experiment an important trial that will 742 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,559 help american engineers back on earth 743 00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:08,880 develop even more durable and stronger 744 00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,679 materials for automobile aircraft and 745 00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,279 spacecraft parts 746 00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:15,760 the ability to deliver and return frozen 747 00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:18,559 space station cargo including biological 748 00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:20,799 samples is essential for scientists 749 00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:22,720 hoping to better understand how the 750 00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:25,200 human body can thrive in long-term space 751 00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:26,320 flight 752 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:28,720 these and other important results gained 753 00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:31,360 in space also have direct benefits here 754 00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:32,559 on earth 755 00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,799 one experiment on human immune cells 756 00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:36,960 scheduled to fly next year requires 757 00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:39,279 astronauts to access samples very 758 00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:41,200 quickly after the cargo arrives to the 759 00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:43,919 space station space flight capabilities 760 00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:45,840 developed through the cots program make 761 00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:47,919 this experiment possible 762 00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:50,399 with hundreds of ongoing experiments the 763 00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:52,240 international space station will be a 764 00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:55,520 platform of discovery for years to come 765 00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:57,679 the amazing breakthroughs in scientific 766 00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,679 research will be made possible and 767 00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:01,919 carried aloft to the orbiting laboratory 768 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:05,200 by nasa's american partners spacex and 769 00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:06,720 orbital sciences 770 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:08,720 but the success of nasa's commercial 771 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:11,679 cargo program is just beginning 772 00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,080 soon private american companies will be 773 00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:16,159 transporting our astronauts to the 774 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:19,279 station on spacecraft launched from u.s 775 00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:20,240 soil 776 00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:22,960 thanks to american ingenuity and nasa's 777 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:25,440 never say never attitude the future of 778 00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:34,470 and with that let's hear about uh what's 779 00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:36,480 what's next to come for uh american 780 00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,960 commercial space flight with nasa's uh 781 00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,159 director of commercial space flight 782 00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:42,640 development phil mcallister 783 00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:44,799 thanks trent uh for my remarks i'm gonna 784 00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:47,440 go a little off top off type 785 00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:49,200 and talk about the emotions that i've 786 00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:51,440 been feeling as cots have been coming to 787 00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:52,640 a close 788 00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,159 you know as engineers we like to talk 789 00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:56,880 about specific impulse and beta angles 790 00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:59,519 communications frequencies but 791 00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:01,360 i've been really struck by sort of the 792 00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:03,279 feelings that and the emotional aspects 793 00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:05,279 of what we have accomplished over these 794 00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:06,720 five or six years 795 00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:08,720 first and foremost obviously is a very 796 00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:11,519 strong sense of pride and accomplishment 797 00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:13,120 obviously the hardware that you've seen 798 00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,519 today very impressive uh the 799 00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:17,600 accomplishments of the program and the 800 00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,960 fact that we've been able to go all the 801 00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,559 way through the end 802 00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:22,240 that was one of the really uh true 803 00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:24,399 accomplishments as uh 804 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:26,159 as aerospace professionals we've 805 00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:27,600 probably all been part of a program 806 00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:30,000 where you start it off you start to get 807 00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:31,600 invested in it and then for some reason 808 00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:33,600 it gets cancelled usually because of 809 00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:35,200 cost situations 810 00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:36,399 you kind of feel like you've been left 811 00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:37,679 at the altar 812 00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,200 but it was been great to see this 813 00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:40,799 program go all the way through i'm 814 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:42,480 convinced that one of the keys was the 815 00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:44,960 cost effectiveness of this program and 816 00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:46,559 that enabled it to get all the way 817 00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:48,080 through to the end 818 00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:49,120 um 819 00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,960 also i'm very proud of nasa i have to 820 00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:52,559 say i'm obviously proud of our partners 821 00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:54,399 and what they were able to accomplish 822 00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,200 um but uh we haven't always been a good 823 00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:59,200 partner in the past and i think through 824 00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,720 the cots efforts that we've shown that 825 00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:03,120 nasa can be a good partner 826 00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,279 we were able to step back 827 00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:07,440 and let our partners take the lead on 828 00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:09,360 the development of these systems and 829 00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:11,440 also being able to adapt to two very 830 00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:12,320 different 831 00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:13,840 companies i wasn't quite sure how that 832 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,480 would go um the companies have very 833 00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,000 different business approaches they have 834 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,320 different cultures and nasa was able to 835 00:33:23,830 --> 00:33:21,840 adapt uh 836 00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:23,840 to those uh 837 00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:26,159 and enable them to thrive and also the 838 00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,000 overall program to 839 00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,240 thrive as well so i've had a very strong 840 00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:32,240 feeling of accomplishment and pride 841 00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:34,640 because of that also i have to say it's 842 00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:37,120 tinged with a lot of sadness to see it 843 00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:39,039 finally come to a close it's been a wild 844 00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,600 ride there have been a lot of challenges 845 00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:43,760 that have been overcome over the years 846 00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:45,760 and many of us that have worked together 847 00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,000 now for over six years we've come to 848 00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:50,159 know each other respect each other and 849 00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:51,679 rely on each other which was one of the 850 00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:53,840 keys to the partnership so it's kind of 851 00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:55,919 sad to see this come to an end but i 852 00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,480 have to say that the sadness is very 853 00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:00,159 much tempered by 854 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:01,840 hope and optimism which is what i'm 855 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:03,039 feeling 856 00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:05,120 most when i look forward 857 00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:07,760 the future that has been enabled 858 00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,839 by the cots program we can now get the 859 00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:11,919 most out of the international space 860 00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:13,119 station 861 00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:14,960 we are no longer going to be constrained 862 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:16,919 by our upmass capability and the 863 00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,359 productivity of that national lab can 864 00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:21,599 finally come to full fruition so i'm 865 00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,079 really excited about that 866 00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:26,159 and even more so we now have a template 867 00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,159 for how to do a non-traditional program 868 00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:30,480 using public-private partnerships 869 00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:33,040 those have been very difficult and now 870 00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:35,040 like allen said every every program is 871 00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,800 different it's not the right model for 872 00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:38,879 everything but we certainly have a 873 00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:41,599 successful template that future programs 874 00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:44,159 and future program managers can go to 875 00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,079 and say how did they do that how did 876 00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:48,639 that work and maybe apply that to future 877 00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:50,079 endeavors 878 00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:51,760 i think with the budget challenges that 879 00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:53,359 we are all facing 880 00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:56,960 partnerships are going to be critical 881 00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:58,880 for all of our future space endeavors 882 00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,400 we're going to have to do more of that 883 00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:02,720 and seeing the success of cots i think 884 00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:04,160 has given us the 885 00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,079 confidence to be able to do more of 886 00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:08,720 those partnerships uh certainly 887 00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:10,960 it was critical for enabling commercial 888 00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:13,119 crew 889 00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:16,800 that um the the success that cots had 890 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:19,760 exhibited um even early on gave policy 891 00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:21,520 makers and nasa the confidence to be 892 00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:23,119 able to say yes i think we can do this 893 00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:24,880 with commercial crew and if you look at 894 00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,480 commercial crew 895 00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:29,119 most of the critical key aspects of cots 896 00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:30,960 have been adapted by crew 897 00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,320 we're using pay for performance 898 00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,839 milestones we're using space act 899 00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:35,839 agreements for the initial rounds of 900 00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:37,839 development we're having skin in the 901 00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:39,920 game competition all those features that 902 00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:41,520 alan mentioned that were key to the 903 00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:43,040 success of cots 904 00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:44,880 we are adapting and using in commercial 905 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:47,359 crew and hope to be using that in the 906 00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,320 future so uh that's i think that's the 907 00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,400 final feeling that i have is the hope 908 00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:54,240 and optimism that i see for the future 909 00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:01,750 thanks girl 910 00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:03,119 let's go ahead and start a question and 911 00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:04,640 answer session uh we'll start here in 912 00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:05,839 the room and then we'll go to the phone 913 00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:08,800 line and do we have any questions here 914 00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:13,430 hi everybody 915 00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:14,320 yeah 916 00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:16,960 dan leone with space news i have uh one 917 00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:18,720 backward-looking question which i think 918 00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,880 has i think that other entrepreneurial 919 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,640 space people who are watching may be 920 00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:24,160 interested to know the answer to and one 921 00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,440 very forward-looking one for allen 922 00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:29,520 much has been made about nasa's role as 923 00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:32,079 a critical anchor customer and alan you 924 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:33,599 said you were convinced these companies 925 00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:34,720 were going to go ahead and build these 926 00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:37,359 vehicles no matter what you guys did and 927 00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:39,680 i'm curious the concepts definitely 928 00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,320 predate the cots program but i wonder if 929 00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,400 nasa had not showed up 930 00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:47,040 do do you spacex in orbital think that 931 00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:48,800 at this point you would have had 932 00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:50,560 multiple successful demonstration 933 00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:51,839 flights of the vehicles you were 934 00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:53,599 developing or 935 00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:57,990 well that's a little bit of a tough 936 00:37:02,310 --> 00:36:59,599 question because once we got these 937 00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:02,320 contracts we focused on them 938 00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:05,040 and but i do think that having nasa as 939 00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:08,240 our initial partner on cots and then 940 00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:11,440 having them as our first customer 941 00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,839 i won't speak for for gwen but in our 942 00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:15,359 case i think was essential because there 943 00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:16,720 were a lot of new things we had to learn 944 00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:18,800 about getting to the space station and 945 00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:21,119 accomplishing a mission 946 00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:22,800 that included a rendezvous in grappa 947 00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:25,280 with a human occupied 948 00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,800 vehicle 949 00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:28,320 now we could have developed antares and 950 00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:30,000 flown it for other purposes for other 951 00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:32,079 customers i think there is a market for 952 00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:33,119 that 953 00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,119 our ability to succeed was enhanced by 954 00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:39,359 the partnership with nasa the goals that 955 00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:42,720 were set by the program helped us and um 956 00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:44,480 if i could just add i'd like to also 957 00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:46,480 thank nasa and charlie to for that award 958 00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:48,480 today our team is going to be very proud 959 00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:49,839 of that and 960 00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,119 they did the work and i'll be happy to 961 00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:52,800 deliver it back to them and i'm sure 962 00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:54,560 gwen feels the same way 963 00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,470 so we were working on uh 964 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,800 an eelv class launch vehicle and we also 965 00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:04,960 were working on a capsule prior to the 966 00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:07,200 cots program 967 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,520 i don't think we would have done as much 968 00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:11,680 as we did in the time frame that we did 969 00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,280 without nasa's support as a matter of 970 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:15,359 fact i'm pretty sure i can say with 971 00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:16,400 confidence 972 00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:17,920 that we would not have done what we've 973 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:19,920 done in this time frame so nasa's 974 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:22,880 support was essential uh to our 975 00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:25,920 developing this system um and uh and 976 00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:33,030 we just learned that cots has 977 00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:35,200 been successful but perhaps not for for 978 00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:36,880 every other program 979 00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:37,920 but do you 980 00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:40,000 for example what programs might it be 981 00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:42,160 appropriate for in the realm of human 982 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,920 exploration going forward are there any 983 00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:45,520 serious inklings within nasa have they 984 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:47,119 already reassigned you somewhere to make 985 00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,880 this work for something else can you can 986 00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:50,480 you tell us 987 00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,400 how it might come to pass as phil said 988 00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,240 that another program manager picks this 989 00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,000 approach up right 990 00:39:02,710 --> 00:38:58,560 well i think it's very important that uh 991 00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:04,710 chat breaks through the challenges of 992 00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:06,720 the new technologies that are required 993 00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,680 to explore outside 994 00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:11,599 of earth's boundaries in the low earth 995 00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,200 orbit and then going deeper and deeper 996 00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:15,839 into space to the moon and beyond so 997 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:17,760 nasa is 998 00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:21,760 it is a governmental effort to to to to 999 00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:23,920 tackle those new technologies 1000 00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:27,040 then turn it over to industry who is set 1001 00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:28,720 up to operate 1002 00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:31,599 these systems in a more cost-effective 1003 00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:34,960 manner that that's just a a natural fit 1004 00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:36,560 so i think that's a very important part 1005 00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:38,480 of the model for for nasa and the 1006 00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:40,960 government to blaze the trail and then 1007 00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:43,040 turn it over for operational of any 1008 00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:44,880 existing technology so i think that's 1009 00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:48,079 really key uh we shouldn't ask uh expect 1010 00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:50,240 private companies to have you know just 1011 00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:53,680 breakthrough technologies uh 1012 00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:56,160 that that's not i don't think that's a 1013 00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:57,440 key ingredient a key ingredient that 1014 00:40:01,990 --> 00:39:59,680 models of the model is to to not have 1015 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,000 that requirement which and if you look 1016 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:04,400 at history you can there are cases that 1017 00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:06,640 have failed because the technology 1018 00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:08,560 challenge which is too great 1019 00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,440 um 1020 00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:10,480 in july 1021 00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:12,640 we sent out a synopsis requesting 1022 00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:15,200 information for ideas from industry on 1023 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:18,720 how the model could be extended and 1024 00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:20,720 what are on the minds of our industry 1025 00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:23,280 partners today for helping nasa 1026 00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:25,280 complete our exploration goals and there 1027 00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:26,800 is a great deal of 1028 00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:29,440 great responses 1029 00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:32,720 systems to go back and explore the moon 1030 00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:35,760 communication systems propellant systems 1031 00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:38,160 launch systems 1032 00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:40,880 there's all kinds of potential out there 1033 00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:43,680 where the model can be used and i think 1034 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:46,000 it it can be used 1035 00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:49,040 in a complementary manner 1036 00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:51,040 nasa develops the you know high 1037 00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,359 technology systems and then 1038 00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:55,680 the systems that uh 1039 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:57,440 are less complex 1040 00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:00,720 uh can be uh turned over to industry so 1041 00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,400 i think that's the way uh to look 1042 00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:04,720 forward it's just to keep keep looking 1043 00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:07,040 for those uh opportunities where we can 1044 00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:09,520 work together to create uh and and 1045 00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,240 achieve our goals 1046 00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:13,920 let me let me jump to the phone line 1047 00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:15,760 here and we'll start with uh tarek malik 1048 00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,630 thank you uh uh 1049 00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:22,800 i have a question i i think about 1050 00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:25,359 looking ahead for uh for gwen and and 1051 00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:27,520 for frank you know glenn i'm wondering 1052 00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:30,560 what uh spacex learned um you know from 1053 00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:31,920 the cots program that you've been able 1054 00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:34,640 to apply to crs and maybe like one or 1055 00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:37,200 two kind of vital lessons in in 1056 00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:39,520 developing the dragon spacecraft 1057 00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:41,920 and for frank i'm wondering how um you 1058 00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:43,760 know the process has informed what your 1059 00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,960 plans are for 1060 00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:46,960 uh for sickness um 1061 00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:49,680 and terry's on on a non-nasa commercial 1062 00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:58,790 okay good question hard to answer um 1063 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:01,270 you know i think uh the 1064 00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:03,520 there were a couple of lessons that we 1065 00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:04,640 that we learned during the cots 1066 00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:05,920 development program i don't know whether 1067 00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,319 they'd be specifically applicable to crs 1068 00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:10,319 but uh certainly to other programs going 1069 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:13,200 forward um spacex is an organization 1070 00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:15,040 that loves to test 1071 00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,440 and we we test enormously at the 1072 00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:19,359 component level uh certainly on the 1073 00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:20,800 vehicles we go to the subsystem all the 1074 00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,040 way up to the system level for dragon 1075 00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,200 kind of given where we were 1076 00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:27,040 with the funding that was available both 1077 00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:28,880 at spacex and from nasa 1078 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:31,119 we had with purpose cut out a lot of 1079 00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:32,560 system tests 1080 00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:36,160 dragon and we're relying more heavily on 1081 00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:38,079 the component level tests very much like 1082 00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:41,520 the iridium uh model actually um and we 1083 00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,240 found uh when we did decide to to pull 1084 00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:46,560 back some of those big system tests we 1085 00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,680 did find that we learned a lot so um 1086 00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:51,359 we'll continue to do those big system 1087 00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,760 tests on on our launcher systems going 1088 00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,680 forward that's always been the plan 1089 00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:57,359 and certainly will continue to drive 1090 00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,079 large system testing uh on the on the 1091 00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:02,400 capsule side as well 1092 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,839 i only gave you one lesson learned i 1093 00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:06,240 cheated there sorry tarik 1094 00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:09,280 you want more no you go 1095 00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:11,359 another valuable lesson learned in cots 1096 00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:13,040 that carries over into crs is the 1097 00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,760 relationship between the company and uh 1098 00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:17,599 and our other partners including nasa 1099 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:19,280 and the state of virginia 1100 00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:20,480 we've had to work through a lot of 1101 00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:22,800 issues uh and sometimes very intense 1102 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,200 issues related to cost schedule and 1103 00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:27,599 technical performance that um have paved 1104 00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:28,480 the way 1105 00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,000 operate in the future even the fact that 1106 00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,400 we had to 1107 00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:36,240 abandon our approach on the first 1108 00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:37,599 attempt 1109 00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:39,920 of the demo mission and come back around 1110 00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:41,359 and try it again 1111 00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:42,720 allowed us to 1112 00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,680 basically do a major simulation in space 1113 00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:47,040 of of the 1114 00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:49,119 management team the technical teams and 1115 00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:51,200 the engineering teams 1116 00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:52,800 making sure that we all agreed on how we 1117 00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:54,160 were solving this problem what we were 1118 00:43:57,910 --> 00:43:56,000 going to do next and what the procedures 1119 00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:57,920 were in a very efficient way and i think 1120 00:44:01,750 --> 00:44:00,240 that that will allow us to deal with any 1121 00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:01,760 other problems that might come up in the 1122 00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:03,680 in the future as far as how we're going 1123 00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:06,079 to use cygnus in the future and antares 1124 00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:07,839 we are negotiating with several 1125 00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:09,680 companies for carrying other payloads 1126 00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:11,359 into space but we already have 1127 00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:12,800 commitments from uh from other 1128 00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:15,599 organizations to add payloads um 1129 00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,640 secondary payloads to the cygnus and um 1130 00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:20,160 a couple of flights down the road we 1131 00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:21,599 will be doing a 1132 00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:23,839 conducting experiment for glenn research 1133 00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:26,319 center to evaluate fire propagation and 1134 00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:27,520 extinguish 1135 00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:31,359 we undock from the station 1136 00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:32,560 that's the plan 1137 00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,280 and 1138 00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,240 secondary payloads that could be 1139 00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:38,240 installed on either the outside or the 1140 00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,720 inside and conducted following the cargo 1141 00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:42,880 delivery so we think there's lots of 1142 00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:45,440 opportunity for that as well as 1143 00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,040 as the exploration 1144 00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,280 asteroid retrieval and lunar missions 1145 00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:51,359 develop in in the future they're going 1146 00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:53,040 to need cargo they're going to need 1147 00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,880 modules they're going to need support 1148 00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:56,880 from companies like ours to 1149 00:45:02,550 --> 00:44:59,440 to be able to conduct those missions in 1150 00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:05,349 thank you okay let me take two more from 1151 00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:06,800 the phone if there are any further 1152 00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:08,079 questions here in the audience just just 1153 00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:09,599 shoot a hand up as we take these two and 1154 00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:10,800 i'll come back to you but uh let's go 1155 00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:13,920 with alan boyle and msnbc god allen 1156 00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:16,400 thank you uh i guess this might be for 1157 00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,000 alan or 1158 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:19,920 whoever else wants to 1159 00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,560 respond to this idea of 1160 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,800 going forward administrator bolden 1161 00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:26,560 talked about how congress really needed 1162 00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:28,079 to support 1163 00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,319 the crew development program at the 1164 00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:32,400 requested level in order to make uh 1165 00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:33,920 2017. 1166 00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:37,200 uh why if cots was such a success is it 1167 00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:39,920 such a hard sell to get the sort of 1168 00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:44,160 money that nasa is looking for and and 1169 00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:47,680 what would be the impact if uh the 1170 00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:51,040 funding level was not at uh what the 1171 00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:54,319 administration wants how much would that 1172 00:46:05,190 --> 00:45:57,920 affect the development programs for uh 1173 00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:07,030 so i can't can't speak for congress 1174 00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,880 obviously it's a very difficult budget 1175 00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,800 environment for all discretionary 1176 00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:12,480 programs 1177 00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,319 and we're going to see that continue in 1178 00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,560 the future which is why uh programs like 1179 00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:18,720 cots become so critical for the pope in 1180 00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:21,119 the portfolio of the agency um going 1181 00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:23,359 forward we've we've said this very many 1182 00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:24,880 times uh 1183 00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:27,280 uh less money means we go slower than we 1184 00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:29,839 would like to like to go it's it's a 1185 00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,760 pretty straightforward equation we kind 1186 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,520 of think we know how much money it's 1187 00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,520 going to take and if it's 1188 00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:37,119 less money over a longer period of time 1189 00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:38,079 it's going to take us a little bit 1190 00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:39,040 longer 1191 00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:40,480 but we're committed to getting the 1192 00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:41,920 program done 1193 00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:43,599 as soon as possible 1194 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,960 and bring 1195 00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:46,560 that capability back to the united 1196 00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:48,400 states so we are going to continue 1197 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:49,680 pushing our industry partners are 1198 00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:51,920 hitting their milestones in a very good 1199 00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:53,839 fashion 1200 00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:56,319 but all of our programs here at nasa uh 1201 00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:58,960 are are under some degree of stress 1202 00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:00,400 so it's not unique to the commercial 1203 00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:06,150 anything further alan 1204 00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:08,240 and did gwen have any thoughts about 1205 00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:09,280 what the 1206 00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:11,200 future development might be for the crew 1207 00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:13,839 capable of falcon with or without 1208 00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:20,630 well we were founded to uh and we've 1209 00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:23,920 architected all our systems to to carry 1210 00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:25,200 crew 1211 00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:26,800 we certainly would like to move forward 1212 00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,480 with the crew development in partnership 1213 00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:30,640 with nasa um i think it's in our 1214 00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:33,359 genetics to do it regardless 1215 00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:35,839 it will take substantially longer and it 1216 00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:37,359 probably won't meet the requirements 1217 00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:39,040 that nasa has 1218 00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:41,119 to be able to leverage the system 1219 00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,280 i don't alan i apologize i don't want to 1220 00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:44,960 hazard a guess as to how long it would 1221 00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:51,190 i i really would like to 1222 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:53,200 just try to continue to cheerlead for an 1223 00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:54,400 overall 1224 00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,549 you know nasa does an extraordinary 1225 00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,720 amount of work for 16 or 17 billion 1226 00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:04,800 dollars a year i just want to give you a 1227 00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:07,359 little tidbit of information um 1228 00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:09,119 americans spend a hundred billion 1229 00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:10,480 dollars a year 1230 00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,990 i'll drink to that 1231 00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:19,670 thanks alan all right let's move on to 1232 00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:22,160 irene klotz discovery 1233 00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:24,319 hi um thanks very much i have three 1234 00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:26,880 questions uh the first for phil i'm kind 1235 00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:28,079 of following up what you were just 1236 00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:29,280 saying about 1237 00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:31,440 commercial crew 1238 00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:35,200 given what you've learned from the cots 1239 00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:37,359 program would you say that 1240 00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:40,079 it's more important to go slower if the 1241 00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:41,839 funding is not available but keep at 1242 00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:46,480 least two companies in the game or 1243 00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:49,200 or down select to one company in the 1244 00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,430 so getting the systems as soon as 1245 00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:57,599 possible and also having competition are 1246 00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,839 both goals that nasa uh would like to 1247 00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:02,160 maintain through this program i can't 1248 00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:03,599 say one is more important than the other 1249 00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:05,440 we're going to have to see 1250 00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:07,200 the proposals that come in for this next 1251 00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,880 round as charlie mentioned next week 1252 00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:10,480 we're going to be releasing our final 1253 00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:11,760 rfp 1254 00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:14,240 for the next round of proposals 1255 00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:16,559 or for the next round of commercial crew 1256 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:18,880 activity which is expected to start next 1257 00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,760 summer so those proposals will really 1258 00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:23,520 dictate uh 1259 00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:26,240 how fast we go and how many we have 1260 00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:27,359 we're always going to have budget 1261 00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:28,800 challenges so 1262 00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:30,160 we kind of need to decide what kind of 1263 00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:32,079 program we want we want one that's going 1264 00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:36,390 be successful and deliver 1265 00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,640 a capability as soon as possible and we 1266 00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:40,160 believe the best way to do that is 1267 00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:41,680 through competition 1268 00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:43,280 so we would like to maintain that 1269 00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:45,119 obviously we're going to have some hard 1270 00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:46,720 decisions with the budget and we're just 1271 00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,000 going to have to see how that plays out 1272 00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:50,640 and see what the proposal say 1273 00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,319 see where the competition sort of plays 1274 00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:54,480 out and what's in the best interest for 1275 00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,160 nasa in that selection 1276 00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:00,400 um the next two uh went for franken one 1277 00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:03,359 for gwen um frank i know orbital's uh 1278 00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:06,160 pretty focused in with the first um 1279 00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:07,119 uh 1280 00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:09,359 supply mission but could you give us any 1281 00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:10,880 updates on 1282 00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:12,640 any um 1283 00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:15,760 non-nasa business or prospects that 1284 00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,040 might have come up since the 1285 00:50:20,710 --> 00:50:19,359 demonstration flight 1286 00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,720 i guess it was last month or the month 1287 00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,800 before i'm losing track of time 1288 00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:24,720 thanks 1289 00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,240 sorry irene i can't really talk about 1290 00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:28,800 competitive issues yet we're still in 1291 00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:32,000 negotiations and and uh discussions 1292 00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:35,280 but it is fascinating isn't it 1293 00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:37,599 okay um and gwen uh kind of a related 1294 00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:39,680 question for you is um 1295 00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,480 the 1296 00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,280 next launch of falcon 9 of course is uh 1297 00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:45,359 just coming up i guess another week or 1298 00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:49,280 so is that still on track for the 22nd i 1299 00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:51,119 had heard a report that it could be a 1300 00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:52,640 couple days later 1301 00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:53,520 and 1302 00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:58,559 the rocket will be going for the first 1303 00:51:02,630 --> 00:50:59,839 time to a 1304 00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:02,640 a new altitude and um 1305 00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,640 just a little bit about what you're 1306 00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:07,040 hoping to achieve with that ses flight 1307 00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:09,119 thanks 1308 00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:12,160 good afternoon irene um yes so uh the 1309 00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:15,440 next flight of the falcon 9 uh will uh 1310 00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:18,319 deliver the scs-8 satellite uh to a 1311 00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:21,359 geosynchronous transfer orbit um that 1312 00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,280 flight uh we did push it a couple of 1313 00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:25,119 days we're now well i don't i'm not sure 1314 00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:27,440 we have confirmation of range date um 1315 00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:29,920 but i know it was available the 25th 1316 00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:32,079 uh of this month so it's uh i think 1317 00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:33,920 that's a week from monday 1318 00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:36,480 we wanted a little bit more time to make 1319 00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:38,720 sure the launch site 1320 00:51:41,589 --> 00:51:40,240 was ready for us i wanted to give the 1321 00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:41,599 crew a little bit of rest they've been 1322 00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:43,200 working really really hard to get this 1323 00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:44,559 flight off 1324 00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:45,359 so 1325 00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:48,160 november 25th is the planned for date 1326 00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,829 any further questions 1327 00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:57,359 okay i think that's i think that's going 1328 00:52:01,990 --> 00:51:59,760 to be a wrap then let me just flag that 1329 00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:02,000 on nasa.gov you can find a press release 1330 00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:03,440 that drills down with a little bit more 1331 00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:05,040 information about the cots program and 1332 00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:07,040 what the success means and what comes 1333 00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:08,720 next uh also flagged the nasa 1334 00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:11,280 administrator has a blog out today 1335 00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:13,119 about the successful wrap-up of cots you 1336 00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,640 can find that on nasa.gov as well we'll 1337 00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,319 have the two videos that we showed 1338 00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:18,640 during the event up and a fact sheet on 1339 00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:20,319 a bit of nasa's commercial space 1340 00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:21,920 accomplishments to date there so go to 1341 00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:24,160 nasa.gov and just for more generally on 1342 00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:26,000 on nasa and commercial space flight 1343 00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:27,520 development you can go to nasdaq 1344 00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:29,680 commercial so let me um just 1345 00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:32,319 congratulate and thank all of our our 1346 00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:34,640 panelists for their time here today and